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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:06 pm    Post subject: Beta Testing
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I have 2 questions:

1. When will Beta Testing start

2. How can I get in on it
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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject:
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lol great post...

the game was said to enter early (internal) beta some time ago.
as Ziamat said something about a "loooong" beta phase i would assume it willl be still some time.

2. i dunno.
i would assume by applying, once the open beta is announced. Cool
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 Post Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject:
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Whenever the Beta test phase does begin, I hope its not just for the residents of America and Canada.

After all, Australia is not very far via cyber-space. Wink
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject:
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I've been following the development for a while. I'm glad it's finally getting to beta stages. Any idea how many applicants will be accepted?
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject:
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No idea yet but I hope that everyone on the forums and related places has first crack.
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject:
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Here's to hope Wink
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject:
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Actually Therlun they are going to formally enter 'beta' phase sometime this spring. I don't know about Germany but in Canada I'm pretty sure it's not spring yet... Ohio is trying to start spring but we're not having as much sucess as some might like. Which means right now they are probably working at a feverish pace, getting no sleep whatsoever and living on coffee and junkfood as they scramble to reach 'feature complete' where every game feature is complete. Then they go to beta testing where they try very very hard to fix every bug they possibly can.

Zaimat mentioned awhile back that they plan to start small and add additional testers over time. My personal guess is there will be about three or four times when they bring in additional people, once every few months most likely. From my own experience in general software development I know it's common to do a lot of internal testing first before you let clients/customers start playing around with things. So they won't have many (or maybe even any) outside testers at first, and things will grow over time... small numbers at first while they figure out how to handle testers who aren't on site, more as they get experience at dealing with the various issues involved.

I can't speak for Zaimat on this, but I know that if I was in charge I would not want to be pestered about it. So I would guess that it's OK to mention your interest but I'd refrain from bumping or sending lots of PMs/emails.

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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject:
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In Central Arizona the trees are already blooming.

As far as intentions I have made mine known and when I can do a form then I will give experience.
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:37 am    Post subject:
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Yesterday Spring had definately "sprung" in London. T'was a fantasticly sunny day and about 20 degrees outside. It's been a long time since I've seen Regents Park that busy on my walk to the station. And to think 3 weeks ago I was freezing my ass off watching the ruggers in Twickenham and a few days before that the snow had stopped me getting to work!!

Today's nice as well so I'll be leaving work early for an afternoon lounge in the park8)
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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject:
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It looks like spring, but I think the official start isn't for another week.
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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject:
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"Spring" officially started here (Reno, NV) at 4:37 AM this morning. Last week was beautiful with 60-70 degree temps. Then spring arrives, with a winter storm producing 1-3 feet of snow in the mountains. Which I had the grand experience of driving through. Chain controls make driving such fun.

So of it's Spring there awaiting fer, then it's here by golly!

Oh, and I want to be a beta tester, too. Razz
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:15 pm    Post subject:
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Oh! Wooden I like to be a Beta Tester Too!

Please add me!
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:39 am    Post subject:
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I would guess that most people by showing interest in the development of the product at this stage would like to be beta testers - who wouldnt. I guess it depends on their plans for testing whether it eventually becomes a staged open release (e.g. invitees, forum board members, open announcement) or indeed like GalCiv2 a paynow and get a final version on release.

The problem i believe in having an open beta too early is that if it is too buggy then this can be infuriating e.g. moo3 (i realise that there will be more tolerance due to it being beta) but it must be reasonable imho.

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The problem i believe in having an open beta too early is that if it is too buggy then this can be infuriating

This is only a problem because there are often people who get into open betas who don't really understand what 'beta' means. GalCiv got a lot of whining about bugs on the forum in one, though less of it in their current beta, but that's what happens when you allow anyone in. The benefit is that you get a lot more feedback, and specifically with GalCiv, they get a cash infusion.

Horizon still seems to be operating below the radar for most people, which is a shame, but it also means that l3o is more likely to get good beta testers if they do have an open beta. The people who've made it here are more likely to be above the level of the casual gamer in terms of technical and gaming/betatesting experience. They understand the process better and are more likely to give useful feedback.
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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject:
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Basically in my view it comes down to:

a) We pick people who we think will be good beta testers. There will be more interaction with them. After all time is limited and we got so much work to do. Easyer to organize, manage a small group, low cost. The standard method for traditional developers.

b) Let everyone/anyone, wide open beta. Either a model where people pay up-front (a la galciv) or at the very least a smaller up-front fee (which can be deducted when they buy the release version). Since we have to setup and maintain a high-bandwidth pipe/server to deal with the downloading. As a bonus if enough people get into the program, it helps the development with an immediate cash infusion as well as showing the level of interest to a publisher.

Both models have their merits and advantages. Right now our plan is to start a gradual method. But all the regulars on the forum will have a chance to participate in the beta-section even if you aren't directly into the beta-tester group. And ultimately based on this we will decide to open-up the program and which direction to go.

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We are being careful not to hype the game too fast, we won't be 'under the radar' for long anyway expecially with our fans behind us. Smile Already there are considerable expectations on us to deliver a game of certain magnitude. So the bar is set pretty high which is fine with us. But we don't want the expectations to become unrealistic. We want people to discover Horizon for what it is, which is a new 'open' space strategy game, similar in many ways to past 4x games but also different in many aspects.
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 Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject:
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Zaimat,

Thanks for the information. I have been on many Beta Testing teams. I have tested SE4, SE4 Gold, and SE4:Star Fury, and SE5. Galciv 1, and 2.

Malkary, Ares Rising, Star Trek Birth of the Federation, Fargate.

If you need my assistance, please let me know. My real job is in Tech Support. I am a Application Engineer.

Thanks,

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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject:
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Star Trek Birth of the Federation

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Wow....i wished i had done that too! from the game movie, i had the feeling that more ships were in the beta...am i correct? cheers...

PS. You don't have by chance an old beta around, do you?

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 Post Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject:
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Zaimat wrote:
...But all the regulars on the forum will have a chance to participate in the beta-section even if you aren't directly into the beta-tester group...
Sad Unfortunately I have not been a regular on the forum... Does being an irregular since 1969 and from Toronto count?
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It has been a long time relativly speaking and dont want to give up my spot of posible beta testing so

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I'm sure that they will start/expand the beta when they are ready. When they take time with these things it just shows that they are trying to make a solid game. Very Happy
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