Many battles in a turn problem (only the last one shown)

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Many battles in a turn problem (only the last one shown)

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In the middle or in the end of the game there very well may be several simultaneous combats per one turn.

For example:
- My fleet is attacking a Kamzaks' colony (and I've pressed "Engage sector")
- Kamzaks fleet is trying to eradicate the defences on my planet
- Lezgoons and Barbecks scouts are shooting each other in my space

After I make my first move in the first combat and press "Done", I'm moved to the last battle occuring and I have to watch it, despite my obvious wish to lead my ships to victory.

Unfortunately, I haven't gathered enough info to determine, what combat will player be switched to in case of several battles in one turn.
Though, I suppose, that doesn't matter, as the game can't guess, what battle is the most important to the player.
The game has to provide access to all battles to let player choose, do they want to participate in them or not (idependently, because in the example above I really don't care about feuds of my allies).

Version 0.0.3.40, Steam.

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Re: Many battles in a turn problem (only the last one shown)

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True_poser wrote:After I make my first move in the first combat and press "Done", I'm moved to the last battle occuring and I have to watch it, despite my obvious wish to lead my ships to victory.

Unfortunately, I haven't gathered enough info to determine, what combat will player be switched to in case of several battles in one turn.
The way the system is intended to work is that you control or view ships within one sector at a time based on how much is visible to you. If other ships are in combat within the same sector you will see them too, since they are happening in the same location and might be important.

All combat in Horizon is happening at the same time although each ship gets to act on their own initiative (speed). Now it is possible to tweak the camera so it shows or not to show certain things as long as we can predict what the player expects.
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That is a nice feature, but I mean an another scenario - when there are at least two battles in different sectors.

I'm sorry, I don't have a savegame readily available, but the steps to reproduce are:
1) Get in war
2) Make sure that enemy's fleet is trying to vaporize your planet-side defenses (it may be easily tens of turns if you rebuild)
3) While your planet is under siege, gather your fleet and move to some enemy's system and try to attack it ("Engage sector") when whole enemy's fleet is distracted on your planet.

Yes, you'll see your ships gathered in a corner of the enemy's system at first, but when you move your first ship and press done, you're forced to "leave that battle" and watch turn after turn how enemy's fleet tries to siege your planet.

The problem is that:
1) Running battles in parallel - turn here, turn there - may be jarring
2) Running battles consequently - one battle ended, another one begins - contradicts the really nice feature of being able to seamlessly go from one sector to another during battle

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True_poser wrote:Yes, you'll see your ships gathered in a corner of the enemy's system at first, but when you move your first ship and press done, you're forced to "leave that battle" and watch turn after turn how enemy's fleet tries to siege your planet.
That is not supposed to happen.

If you have manual control then you will stay in the same sector (enemy system), you will just get notifications about combat occurring in the other sector (with the option to switch) but you won't leave the sector automatically. Now using auto mode : if you are in combat it will stay in the sector but if you are not then the system will switch over to the other sector with combat.

I verified the current version that this is how it's working. The only exception I can see is if a task force is split and one of the ships is left in a different sector then it will give you control of each ship regardless of sector.

Let me know if this is not happening as expected and you come across it. Thanks!
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Thank you, I'll retest it as soon as I'll be able to.

By the way, maybe I'm somehow missing the notification and the controls I can use to switch between battles.
What does it look like?

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True_poser wrote:By the way, maybe I'm somehow missing the notification and the controls I can use to switch between battles. What does it look like?
In tactical, on the top left there is the combat log window. It shows there in Bold any combat in other sectors. You can click on the entry to switch during combat.
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Thank you, I finally found it.

Still, managing fleets is still a pain even with one battle in a turn, but that would be offtopic here.