Discovering already discovered tech from digs

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Discovering already discovered tech from digs

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I noticed a few times when I do digs on some planets, that I discover tech that I have already discovered either through previous digs or research.

A game I'm playing now, I just did a dig where I discovered agronomic centers.
However I had already discovered agronomic centers in a previous dig.
This is just an example, and I noticed it with other techs as well.

Its this intended or is it a bug?
I find rather illogical to get a discovery for something that you already have knowledge of.
It would seem more logical, at least to me it does, to get a boost in the tech filed that the discovery belongs in than rediscovering something that you already have knowledge of.

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Are you using the latest version?
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I'm using the modding beta version, and always keep the game up to date.

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Then this must be a gameplay bug because one can not discover a tech they already have.
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Thats what I thought as well, which is why I posted this.
If you already have the tech, then it should instead-give a boost in the respective tech field.

Going by the history with this game here, I have no doubt the devs will check this out and fix it if there is a bug.
They have been good at communicating and fixing bugs here, which has resulted in a great game.

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For techs it works that way, if you have already discovered the tech it will give you a boost instead.

For unlocking new building levels (eg: Agronomic Centers), they are not techs per say but I can change it so it gives a message, that you found nothing new. That would certainly make more sense in the off-chance that it happens. Thanks for reporting it.
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Not sure if this was fixed or not, but I just had this happen again.
This time I discovered the shields tech, from a dig, even though I already had the tech.

I did not get any boost in the either the armor tech field or shield tech specifically from this discovery as I should have according to the above explanation.

Game version 1.0.2.122

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It's a full tech field boost when you already have the tech. It varies in amount and is more significant when techs are level 5 or less. I looked at the code and it all looks fine to me.

I don't think there was ever an issue with this in particular but I'd be happy to take a look at it if you have a saved game (will need the turn right before the boost is applied/dig is done, check your autosaves to see the turn before).
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Sent in a bug report with reference to my post here.
I am uncertain about the boost gain, cannot tell if boost is applied or not.


Edit:
Was unable to send it bug report, failed delivery. see post here for more info.
http://forum.l3o.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1383

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Got the report.. Looking into it..
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After reviewing the saved game, I can confirm you received a boost in armor tech field. You can also verify this on your end by doing the following:

1. Take note of current progress for each armor tech
2. Cancel dig order, press turn and compare normal progress
3. Order dig, press turn and compare boosted progress

What I have done is it will now display "Knowledge has increased in the field of Armor" in turn messages for techs already discovered in the next patch.
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Good to hear things gets resolved.
Its this kind of communication that makes people want to report problems, as they know it will be looked into and resolved.

I just wish more developers/publishers were willing to listen to the community and fix things the way you do here.

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Just stumbled across another one of these.
This time is was from ships debris on a planet.
"Knowledge of Fusion power Generators has been discovered from the ship debris on planet [insert planet name here]

Now that I know I get the tech boost I'm supposed to get, I thought maybe you would want to know about this and change the text accordingly, so it displays correctly?
Made a manual save of this so I can provide a savegame if need be.

Game version, 1.0.2.122.